What is the right answer?

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What is the right answer?

Postby GundamPoker » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:18 am

Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6Image, 10Image
SB calls, Hero raises, SB calls

Flop: (4 SB) AImage, 2Image, QImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (2 BB) KImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: (2 BB) QImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets

Total pot: $30 (3 BB) | Rake: $0.50

So, what do you think the right move here is?
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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby rascony » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:10 pm

I would say fold. You only beat a 9 high hand, if that hand doesn't have a 2, if that hand isn't suited spades, if ....

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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby Zerbet » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:13 pm

The right move is to bet the flop or the turn.
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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby GundamPoker » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:16 am

Zerbet wrote:The right move is to bet the flop or the turn.


I completely agree!

I think the raise pre-flop was a mis-click, because:

1) I would hardly EVER raise out-of-position to a limp in this situation. Why I raised, I have no idea... very weird.

2) If I did raise on purpose (i.e. realized that I had raised), I would have bet this flop >95% of the time. The fact that I did not bet the flop, really leans towards me not thinking/realizing I raised pre-flop... because it was a mis-click.

So, can we pretend I just checked pre-flop...... that would make the check flop/turn make a lot more sense.

Thanks.

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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby dead money » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:46 pm

I think you have to bet the turn to find out where you are.
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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby GundamPoker » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:14 pm

1) I think the raise pre-flop was a mistake. I am telling myself it is a mis-click.

2) Multi-tabling is bad, because I believe I hadn't even realized I raise when I checked the flop. With a raise pre-flop, I certainly should lead out on this flop.

3) Once I didn't lead out on the flop (clear mistake), I think checking the turn was fine. I can get a fold by betting the turn, but I also could get a call and/or raise. If I get a raise, I've wasted a bet. If I get a call then I've also likely wasted a bet and not gotten much information. He could call with a draw or have me beat. So, a bet-raise is information but bad, a bet-call is not much information and bad and a bet-fold is good. The pot is not that big. I don't mind giving up with a check-fold. And if it goes check-check, I get better information than a bet-call would give me.

4) Once he checks the turn, I got the information I was looking for on the check-check turn and I call. I mean what could the guy have that has me beat, and yet checks the turn behind on this board?

I paused for a little bit, but it didn't take much time to call here and sweat the possible jack.

(Folks remember this is a HU table, not just 2-handed. So his none-raise pre-flop usually means no paint - no pair.)

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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby TheWize1 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:08 am

The right answer is: "It depends"
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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby GundamPoker » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:16 pm

Zerbet wrote:The right move is to bet the flop or the turn.


I agree that the right move is the bet the flop, I'm not sure why I didn't bet the flop... very unusual. Once I don't bet the flop, I don't think a bet on the turn is a good move.

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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby mcomikey » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:48 pm

GundamPoker wrote:Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6Image, 10Image
SB calls, Hero raises, SB calls

Flop: (4 SB) AImage, 2Image, QImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (2 BB) KImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: (2 BB) QImage (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets

Total pot: $30 (3 BB) | Rake: $0.50

So, what do you think the right move here is?



How does the SB bet after you check ?
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Re: What is the right answer?

Postby rascony » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:26 pm

mcomikey wrote:How does the SB bet after you check ?

Oops.
I change my answer to 'email support and ask for a thorough review' as the right move. Online poker is soooo rigged.
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